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What happened against Leeds?
  • efc fan from kentucky
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    No opportunity to watch this game but I checked my espn app earlier and saw the score and my eyes about fell out of my head. Can someone sorta set the table for me on the lineup we put out and what went wrong? Thanks.
  • shotthrustu
    Posts: 125
    A case of who wanted it more I think. we were poor.
  • efc fan from kentucky
    Posts: 726
    Well I found an article in the guardian that discussed the match and pretty much told me what I wanted to know. We didn't start our top team and paid for it. Oh well, time to get some more points this weekend.
  • escla
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    No opportunity to watch this game but I checked my espn app earlier and saw the score and my eyes about fell out of my head. Can someone sorta set the table for me on the lineup we put out and what went wrong? Thanks.


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    See what I mean about the Yanks, thick ,lazy or arrogant I don't know ? "can someone sorta set the table for me on the lineup we put out ". READ. THE FECKIN TEAM SHEET ON THE OS ! And don't expect someone to spell it out for you, and if you want an unofficial view on what went wrong read the 101 posts on this forum about it ! Jeez, thank god you guys are no longer a superpower !
  • efc fan from kentucky
    Posts: 726
    escla said:


    See what I mean about the Yanks, thick ,lazy or arrogant I don't know ? "can someone sorta set the table for me on the lineup we put out ". READ. THE FECKIN TEAM SHEET ON THE OS ! And don't expect someone to spell it out for you, and if you want an unofficial view on what went wrong read the 101 posts on this forum about it ! Jeez, thank god you guys are no longer a superpower !


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    So that's what happened then?
  • efc fan from kentucky
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    Not my fault you all don't do a **** game day thread like every fanbase over here does to discuss games in real time. Makes things much easier chum.
  • MavisCruet
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    escla said:



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    Or, can people with much more experience of football please try and summarise the issues and the game, please.  

    I didn't think it unreasonable.

    I am quite opposed to a lot of the USA's actions, though I find the people a very mixed bag.  However, I am leaping to the defence of a nation I usually disagree with because you're being such a tit about it!

    You're Richard Dawkins in disguise.

  • MavisCruet
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    Thanks site, well done!
  • efc fan from kentucky
    Posts: 726
    I don't blame him for his attitude, someone has to be "that guy" on every forum.
  • MavisCruet
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    As for what happened, we started Francisco Junior, who was far too lightweight against a determined Leeds side, Guaye, who did pretty much nothing, Oviedo in place of baines, who wasn't as good as Baines (obviously), Mucha, who whilst not at fault for either goal, is ropey.

    Leeds were faster into the tackle, beat some players with ease.  There was a gaping chasm between Heitinga at right centre defence and Coleman at right back,  I think down to the latter's positioning.

    Fellaini defended woefully, and for the first half was more deep lying.

    Again our central defence pairing looked wobbly.

    Naismith was utterly gash.

    Second half was an improvement, mainly due to the introduction of Pienaar.  Neville replaced Junior, and Fellaini pushed forwards.  Anichebe had presentable chances to do things, but didn't, with the exception of a great cross to Naismith, unmarked at the back post, who missed with a header by some distance.  He remained gash.

    Our passing wasn't crisp, the positions had been changed, it was meant to be more a 4-4-2 I think, but nobody seemed to know where they were, or more importantly the other players were.

    Mirallas didn't do much all game.  I think he was playing up front.

    Leeds weren't great, but they were better than us.

  • efc fan from kentucky
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    I was curious about Mucha. I was wondering if those goals would've been let in if Howard was in goal or not. Sounds like Mucha did ok.

    Well some younger players do need some sort of playing time and experience the growing pains, I guess you couldn't really be 100% confident in that lineup for a for sure win.

    Thank you for your well thought out response. I don't get to watch these games over here and I am trying to learn more every day about this team and whole squad. If I was the coach and had to pick a stronger squad for either Leeds or Southhampton, I probably would've done the same thing.
  • AndyForsyth
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    The defending could have been better for the goals, and the first goal was a beast, but Mucha just doesn't have the confidence that Howard does. We need a new back-up Keeper. Shame that we missed out on Boruc.
  • efc fan from kentucky
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    The defending could have been better for the goals, and the first goal was a beast, but Mucha just doesn't have the confidence that Howard does. We need a new back-up Keeper. Shame that we missed out on Boruc.


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    The defending has been a little shaky lately but luckily Howard has been beast. I hope they can fix their positioning some.
  • Snipellis11
    Posts: 126
    They wanted it a lot more they were first to everything and winning everything, they chased everything they didn't give us any time on the ball and they deserved there win.
  • AndyForsyth
    Posts: 2,545
    I also hate to say this..... Diouf played a blinder for them.....
  • AussieSheila
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    I also hate to say this..... Diouf played a blinder for them.....


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    Nutshell.

    It's the Mickey Mouse Cup, the one we joke about that resides across the park. FA Cup I could understand.

    I think Moyes's statement was the best summation of the night.

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