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Posts: 4,680September 2012 Can we stop going about Fellaini leaving, the transfer window has just closed ffs! He has four years left on his contract and unless a club offers us £30million for him in January (which is very unlikely) he will finish the season as an Everton player.
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Posts: 1,230September 2012 But if chelsea do offer £30m the board will accept no matter what moyes thinks.
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Posts: 546September 201211blue said:
Can we stop going about Fellaini leaving, the transfer window has just closed ffs! He has four years left on his contract and unless a club offers us £30million for him in January (which is very unlikely) he will finish the season as an Everton player.
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If he bangs a goal in tomorrow then im sure everyone will shut up -
Posts: 2,044September 201283EvertonFC said:
If he bangs a goal in tomorrow then im sure everyone will shut up
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Posts: 414September 2012 Moyes last statement makes me worried, he has never been keen on selling players before. He has mostly told the press that we are not a selling club. Maybe he has learned his lesson that if a player wants to go he wants to go and you better sell him. Maybe there is more behind that we don't know. Nevertheless I am worried because Fellaini is a really good player. I want him to get his European experience in Everton.
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Posts: 70September 2012 Iff he dose't want to be a blue any more get shut, and get somebody who wants to play for us, after all no player is bigger than the club
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Posts: 2,044September 2012Moke said:
Iff he dose't want to be a blue any more get shut, and get somebody who wants to play for us, after all no player is bigger than the club
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It's too early to judge the situation, everybody be patient about speculations of him doing anything, I bet we've got nothing to worry about, so full support to the squad in the next game. And I mean full support. COYB.
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Posts: 2,754September 2012 He has a bit to prove now, he could of cantered this season after the way he played during the tail end of last season and started this, he had us fans and the press eating out of his hand, but now he has to go and perform for the manager the fans and the shirt every time he is given the nod. This "misunderstanding" could actually see him raise his game, hopefully starting tonight by dominating Cabaye and co...COYB!!!Did anyone see any Sunday supplement? They were talking about him as basically already being sold in January as bigger things awaited someone of his ability! Fare enough he is champions league quality but it p!sses me off the way Everton are not given the credit we deserve, who could hand on heart say we won't make the top 4 this season apart from the w4nkers on sky who seem determined to undermine our progress every time we start to look like we are moving into European contention
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Posts: 3,112September 2012 what fellaini has done is now the modern way of handing in a transfer request......its gutless, and disrespectful, but that's modern footballers (not all footballers, but many)......
I'd hate to lose a player of his quality, but if he goes he goes.....he needs to impress now if he wants to get that big move he feels he deserves...so he's gonna have to prove to the "big clubs" around europe that he can consistantly play at the kind of level he showed against Man United...so this is good for us.....
lets be honest, we all know the story these days.....if we have a really top player in our team, he'll be constantly linked with the top 4 clubs until he eventually moves on......and that's just the story with Everton, its every club outside the big money clubs....
the fact the media never show us an ounce of respect is the real kick in the balls.....you never hear them say "Steven Gerrard needs to move on if he wants to win trophies"...... -
Posts: 16,299September 2012 Cos they'd get death threats from the classiest supporters in the world
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Posts: 665September 2012NSNO said:
what fellaini has done is now the modern way of handing in a transfer request......its gutless, and disrespectful, but that's modern footballers (not all footballers, but many)......
I'd hate to lose a player of his quality, but if he goes he goes.....he needs to impress now if he wants to get that big move he feels he deserves...so he's gonna have to prove to the "big clubs" around europe that he can consistantly play at the kind of level he showed against Man United...so this is good for us.....
lets be honest, we all know the story these days.....if we have a really top player in our team, he'll be constantly linked with the top 4 clubs until he eventually moves on......and that's just the story with Everton, its every club outside the big money clubs....
the fact the media never show us an ounce of respect is the real kick in the balls.....you never hear them say "Steven Gerrard needs to move on if he wants to win trophies"......-----------------
its true the press seem determined to undermine any progress we make, its not just unsettling players, in the past when we have looked like a threat to the 'money' clubs then it seems like we don't get given any key decisions.. One thing that isn't true though is that we are continually forced to sell our best players. Only two payers in ten years had their heads turned against the clubs wishes and left. We got amazing money for both.That seems to me to be way below average for a premiership team. Leighton Baines, who probably has made no attempts to move, may have read Evertonians going on about him being greedy (which did happen after attempts from the media to unsettle him), and it might have been the one thing that made him think he should go.
Fellaini is an Everton player. We don't need to sell him. If he performs as he has been then what went on at a Belgian Press Conference are irrelevant to me. Lets continue to enjoy him and the rest disrupting their charade. -
Posts: 3,112September 2012brett said:
One thing that isn't true though is that we are continually forced to sell our best players. Only two payers in ten years had their heads turned against the clubs wishes and left..
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We will always lose our best players when they are actually good enough to play for top 4 teams........players like Rooney, Lescott & Arteta......we also lost Pienaar, but got him back when he couldn't get a game at spurs.....
players like Cahill, Jags (injuries haven't helped him), Hibbert, Osman have never been good enough to play for a bigger club.......players like Howard, Neville, Gibson, Saha no longer couldn't cut it at the bigger clubs......
at the moment Fellaini, Jelavic & Baines are potentially good enough to play for bigger clubs.......and when offers do come in for them, they'll want to leave, and we'll do our best to get good money for them.........
that's just the way football is today, its not saying Everton ate a selling club (every club is a selling club when the money is right).......its simple finances, the big clubs have lots of money, the rest of the clubs don't.......so the rich clubs can always take players off the poorer clubs....
this summer Man City took Rodwell.......if they want next summer they'll take Barkley.....
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Posts: 665September 2012 i agree that clubs will always look to sell when the price and time is right..it was with Arteta and definitely was with Rodwell, but there are players happily playing for clubs when they could be on a higher level, and there are also going to continually be players who realise they are better starting every week at a time that worships them than moving on and sitting on bench at a team finishing few places above them. The teams on higher level also make big mistakes in who they buy or miss out on. Its often down to the media hyping a player up. Man City havent been able to buy a massive percentage of players they want..
Big question is whether Fellaini is type of player to sulk because he isnt a sub in a team being knocked out at early stage of Champions League. He might be bit naive but i dont think he is, and seems much more likely to stop playing if crowd get on his back. -
Posts: 3,112September 2012brett said:
but there are players happily playing for clubs when they could be on a higher level, .
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Not sure they're are many players, if any, today who'll turn down a 20-30k a week pay rise to play at a higher level, because they wish to remain loyal to their current club.....and to be honest i can't blame them, football is their job, plain & simple......just wish they wouldn't talk shlte along the way....
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Posts: 665September 2012 i have started to think it could be more likely though. in past its obviously going to be hard to stay loyal to a team and miss out on money that would change your life for good. nowadays the minute you are on a contract at a premiership club them you must be set for life unless you really are an idiot. should be easier to persuade players to stay and play at clubs were they are happy and are loved. seems like its probably the media and agents insisting on merchandise and images being more important than watching the best players week in week out that is difference now. the saddest thing is maybe there arent enough players who actually seem to love the game enough that it becomes the priority. the thing i like about Moyes is that he seems to recognise players who do. I am hoping Fellaini does, Baines definitely seems to, and maybe it took a year with sleazy Harry for Piennar to realise he does but lets hope he what has happened to him sets out a guideline for others.
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Posts: 1,748September 2012brett said:
i have started to think it could be more likely though. in past its obviously going to be hard to stay loyal to a team and miss out on money that would change your life for good. nowadays the minute you are on a contract at a premiership club them you must be set for life unless you really are an idiot. should be easier to persuade players to stay and play at clubs were they are happy and are loved. seems like its probably the media and agents insisting on merchandise and images being more important than watching the best players week in week out that is difference now. the saddest thing is maybe there arent enough players who actually seem to love the game enough that it becomes the priority. the thing i like about Moyes is that he seems to recognise players who do. I am hoping Fellaini does, Baines definitely seems to, and maybe it took a year with sleazy Harry for Piennar to realise he does but lets hope he what has happened to him sets out a guideline for others.
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It's a business now - pure & simple - for club & player. I don't think there's any loyalty left in the game, apart from the fans.
Everton is a special place & players do experience that, but they'll be off given a better offer. That's life. Even Baines. Definitely Fellaini.
And sad to say, had Pienaar been a feature in Tottenham's regular line-up, he wouldn't be back either.
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Posts: 665September 2012 i agree with the business side of this but just not sure money plays part with players as much as the agents around them. most the players prob cant even spend what they get the second they sign for a team like Norwich. At the moment it seems people at top and media dont realise or care the fans and players prefer competitive games week in week with the best players always on display. If Piennars decision was to come back to us so he could enjoy playing week in, week out then we have to see that as positive. I remember the headlines for years about how it was wrong that Arteta, as a rich, happy young man, should stay at Goodison. he didnt actually move until i think he had gone stale at Everton, something that has always happened, and went to a club that suited his playing style. He also seemed aware that the ten milll prob meant more to everton than he did. If the people and agents who run game had their way then we would prob be watching fixed games that encouraged us to keep buying shirts. its got to be fans and then maybe players who make them see how stupid it is
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