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Any Tories in 'ere like?
  • AussieSheila
    Posts: 1,748

    I dont care, people will always moan regardless and not EVERYONE will ever be happy.......FACT


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    Bit like the fans on here then!
  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,024
    ooh touché
  • Jxg
    Posts: 1,537

    Blah blah blah


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    I apologise for misreading (shoot me now, how dare I do that?) but my point still stands: Immigration sky-rocketed under Labour.

    Ed Milliband, by "sucking up to the racist vote" is putting of the politically correct voters who bum immigration. Trading votes is pointless and he isn't doing that; he's simply admitting a fact. Even when the Leader of the Labour Party admits that their policy was wrong, Knoxy still demands it was right.

    Furthermore, you keep calling me a "racist". Why? Because I've taken a negative stance against immigration? That's hardly justifiable. I've never insulted you irrelevantly. I've called you a _fucking idiot, but that's because you are one. You've called me racist, but I'm not. You're as bad as a racist, judging a person at face (or skin) value before actually getting to know them. I haven't said anything along the lines of "Immigrants come here and shouldn't because this is England and they are inferior, white power, blacks suck, etc.". I'm so racist that my girlfriend is Bulgarian for_fuck sake. Nice straw man fallacy you've got going on here, _prick.

    The link you provided at the end is a quarterly report. Find one that shows the statistics for the last 15 years and then get back to me. In fact, no, don't get back to me. I've had enough arguing with possibly the biggest hypocrite I have ever spoken to in my life.
  • JoeIsuzu
    Posts: 152

    @ Everton NSNO


    "What are you talking about?!?! I hope this is a joke and I'm just too thick to get the sarcasm. Ghandi was a hindu and one of the main tenets of Hinduism is all that is has the same intrinsic value. Not only that but in his earlier life he lived in South Africa as a lawyer and started his activism there."


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    Have a read of this


    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/07/the-real-mahatma-gandhi/308550/


    Many 'angelic' types are not quite as angelic as one thinks. 




  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253
    Wow, still loads of left wing crap being written on here then, and they call Evertonians bitter.......
  • mikefiatlux
    Posts: 2
    What a load of venom you have.  Churchill served in the trenches after the Dardenelles.However he was not responsible for the shipping errors and the clumsy recon.  He was a very complicated man He was probably more open to new ideas than most who comment on him.  Nothing and no one is that simple! 

    He became Chancellor but had failed almost every maths test.  President Grant had an appalling record at West Point whereas Patton was a great academic. Bradley was the soldiers general that did not want swimming tanks.

    The concentration camps were not death camps or even labour camps. Many Kommando were happy for their families to go to the camps because they got out of the war zone.What rank did Churchill hold in the army during the Boer War ? 

    As long as we have politicians who have a narrow field of experience then we will have problems. Most of them preach to the converted and say what they think people want to hear. They all want their place in history when they should be grateful of job that lets them be as opinionated as you but listen. 

    Labour has lost its way its way, the liberals are spent but the Conservative party is holding together- JUST. Look at the splits and you will see that the right wing and the landed interests have marginalized much of the party. Watch out for Willets and Redwood. Many politicians get real after leaving. Portillo went to L'pool and got it but too late.  

    Sorry but the majority are well meaning people who have no idea what problems that they are inflicting on us. 
    AUSTERITY > They tried that in 1930's  IT DID NOT work. It is not working now. 

    There is one sad reality when scotland becomes independent we will have perpetual Conservative government. So suck it up and start educating your masters.WE will all have to learn to be nice to get what we want then!!

    Any way I am off to see whether I can join the gravy train like every one. Just cant think which party - Does it matter they do not have any principles. Hardy, Bevan, Peel Bentham are dead live with reality!

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  • AndyForsyth
    Posts: 2,527
    1ceablue said:

    Wow, still loads of left wing crap being written on here then, and they call Evertonians bitter.......


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    Still too much right-wing_shite as well.
  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253

    Still too much right-wing_shite as well.


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    Well stop putting your get rich quick betting schemes up here then......
  • Knoxy2001e
    Posts: 1,424
    " Labour: Positives: cant think of any 

    can't think more likely.

    Negatives: want england to multicultural "

    england has been multicultural for over a century. so has every other advanced democracy in the world. its only losers like you that blame others for your failures and disappointments.


  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,024

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    loser ? loser ? hahaha failures and disappointments..??

    You dont know me... I dont know you...but i'd hazard a guess and say you'd swap your life for mine in an instant !!

    multi cultural for over a century hahaha...the odd pocket of afro carribeans doesn't make england multi cultural...

  • mikefiatlux
    Posts: 2
    Well looking at your photo and your battle with parking meters I guess your life sounds great but be honest being pid to be opinionated surely that is good.

    This country has always been multicultural Look up the origins of the name Quirk ! How you feel is up to you . I do not know why we can go from Tories to looking at Labours achievements. All parties do stupid things. It is always the people who pay.

    Every one wants to twist the facts to suit their views. Re write history etc.

    All amateur politicians without enough guts to do anything about it. Loads of venom . Know how to slag off our "leaders" but do not have a policy in them.
  • danmurf52217802
    Posts: 379
    listen i dont want to be a party pooper but this thread is as boring as sshhiiit,its friday ffs.
  • zagan
    Posts: 4,706

    listen i dont want to be a party pooper but this thread is as boring as sshhiiit,its friday ffs.


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    don't think anyone cares what you think tbh.....
  • zagan
    Posts: 4,706
    don't let the door hit your _arse on the way out....
  • danmurf52217802
    Posts: 379
    how many times are you going to use somebdy elses material,it was funny when they said it,ba ba ba ba ba.
  • zagan
    Posts: 4,706

    how many times are you going to use somebdy elses material,it was funny when they said it,ba ba ba ba ba.


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  • danmurf52217802
    Posts: 379
    dont normally see golfers with two gloves on.is this really you.
  • zagan
    Posts: 4,706

    dont normally see golfers with two gloves on.is this really you.


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    thought it was you preparing for a "posh _wank"....
  • Knoxy2001e
    Posts: 1,424
    "multi cultural for over a century hahaha...the odd pocket of afro carribeans doesn't make england multi cultural..."

    you have no idea what we are talking about. you certainly dont know what multi-culturism is.
  • Knoxy2001e
    Posts: 1,424
    Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition 

    ... a group of psychology researchers released a paper which caused a stir, titled "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition", which sought to synthesize years of research into conservatism and the right wing phenomena. 

    The paper is on line as an Adobe PDF document –

    Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition PDF 600 KB


    Conservative thought and behavior includes: 

    fear and aggression 

    intolerance of ambiguity (prefers simple-minded, black and white thinking)

    uncertainty avoidance 

    personal need for structure
     

    Definitions of Conservatism

    ... a core ideology of resistance to change in society.

    Conservatism in the International Encyclopedia of the Social Sciences as "an attitude of opposition to disruptive change in the social, economic, legal, religious, political, or cultural order" (p. 291).3 He added, "The distinguishing mark of this conservatism, as indeed it is of any brand of conservatism, is the fear of change."


    Conservatives, in particular the religious right, can often be heard to call out for ‘change in society' but for the most part this is a call to roll back the clock, and consists of undoing any changes made in recent times. Among such conservatives, what appears to be a desire for change is really "an imaginatively transfigured conception of the past with which to criticize the present". 

    because conservatives prefer simple minded solutions they are usually unable to follow reasoned argument, hence they cannot sustain the level of concentration needed to read or complete the necessary study of their simple mindsets. so altho i have posted a link to the paper it is unlikely that any conservatives posting here will be able to complete reading it.

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