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Any Tories in 'ere like?
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    Just wondering, how do you justify yourselves?

    You fall into three types: Rich, wannabe rich, or massively credulous.

    Massively credulous: well, too stupid to argue with, poor, oppressed by the Tories, feeds the hand that bites it, so to speak.

    Wannabe rich: see the power and wealth of their betters and masters, and want to get in on the act.  Servile, supplicant scum, who will crawl over their dying grandmother to clutch at the next hand hold on the greasy pole.  Utterly reprehensible.

    The Rich: The real Tories.  Hooray Henries singing "Rah Rah Rah, we're going to smash the oiks", perpetuating their position on centuries of privilege, inbred to the point of idiocy.  It's strange that because some warrior took land by force 800 years ago, leading to 'ownership' of this land, that the elite, now short of manpower and arms, choose the rule of law to state that you can't take away that privilege because doing it by force wouldn't be fair any more.  It's like Chelsea fans getting annoyed by Man City, utter hypocrisy.  Utterly self serving class whose only ambition for the nation is to have it run 'properly', i.e by people with no chins and Harris Tweed.

    I find it odd that the great British intellectual elite are so very often left leaning, non land grabbing.  Ragged Trousered Philanthropists if you will.

    The right produced such gems as Winston Churchill, a fat drunk who was born in a palace, failed military exams as an officer, shot "savages" in both India (and Pakistan as now) and Africa, was party to the creation of the first concentration camps in which women and children died by tens of thousands, was an utter disaster as First Lord of the Admiralty, see Galipoli, before entering politics. He flitted between whichever political party suited his needs and to get power.  

    • He believed in the right and superiority of the Aryan race
    • He set the Black and Tans on Ireland 
    • He approved use of poison gas on Kurds
    • He allowed MILLIONS to die of starvation in Bengal
    • Called Ghandi a "half naked Fakir" despite him being eminently more educated than Churchill, and wished he would be trampled to death by an elephant.
    He was in favour of Sufferage though.

    He is the epitome of a Tory, and anyone who willingly aligns themselves to that ideal is almost invariably, one of the above.
  • JoeIsuzu
    Posts: 153
    I wouldn't be so quick to defend the hurt feelings of Ghandi, who was an out and out racist. I'm not sure your premise is sound, even as a neutral.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    JoeIsuzu said:

    I wouldn't be so quick to defend the hurt feelings of Ghandi, who was an out and out racist. I'm not sure your premise is sound, even as a neutral.


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    I don't know if that's true, he certainly seemed to be able to span religious divides.  Not that I am saying it isn't true, I don't know enough about him However, it was only one small bit of Churchill's legacy of racism, elitism, nationalism and Empire fetish.  There were many more.  He hated Indians, Africans, well, anyone who wasn't white, English and well bred.

    Ghandi seemed to do good.
  • JoeIsuzu
    Posts: 153
    Well, Ghandi considered the Africans to be sub-human. I'm not sure the premise 'Churchill was a drunk racist, therefore all Tories are drunk racists' is quite logical.
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,144
    its far from illogical though...
  • Sheltieforce
    Posts: 458
    A well written piece young man,,

    In all seriousness What a novel, I put it up there with my favourite ever read

    Robert Tressell's " The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist"

    Good Taste Dear Sir B-)
  • Winston Wolfe
    Posts: 4,925
    MavisCruet said:

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    Escla.....talks like he would suck David Cameron's sh¡te into a point.....
  • blue32years
    Posts: 16,908
    I don't know how many times I said Churchill was a c*nt on here and you'd think id kicked a baby in the face.


    Best thing that ever happened to him was the war.
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,144
    blue32years said:

    I don't know how many times I said Churchill was amazing.

    Damo (last year)


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    Hmmm...

  • blue32years
    Posts: 16,908
    Got me


    That's conclusive
  • escla
    Posts: 2,554
    MavisCruet said:

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    Aahh Mavis ! I compliment you on your ability to plagirise an extract from Wikipedia, quite convincing ! Your premise however that there are only three types of Tories is of course entirely of your own fabrication and I find it as amusing as it is inaccurate.

    However, that said, an amusing post as misguided as it is.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    Plaigiarise wikipedia? I had to check the half naked Fakir quote. Does his wikipedia entry mention the concentration camps, kurds, deaths he allowed in Bengal? I would be surprised.

    It's odd though, with great vindication you went after the Americans, demanding they justify the World Series, but wholly incapable of being able to defend a Tory hero, or disassociate yourself from my three Tory stereotypes, you walk away, with a smug amused grin on your face.

    Do feel free, with your vast Tory intellect, to dispute bits of this.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    JoeIsuzu said:

    Well, Ghandi considered the Africans to be sub-human. I'm not sure the premise 'Churchill was a drunk racist, therefore all Tories are drunk racists' is quite logical.


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    Gandhi was tied to the caste system of Hinduism I suppose. I am not sure if that actually means he thought black people were scum.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    JoeIsuzu said:

    Well, Ghandi considered the Africans to be sub-human. I'm not sure the premise 'Churchill was a drunk racist, therefore all Tories are drunk racists' is quite logical.


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    Oh and I wasn't saying all Tories are port swilling aryan brothers. I was trying to think of Tory heroes and it was him or thatcher. The latter was too easy for this crowd.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    blue32years said:

    I don't know how many times I said Churchill was a c*nt on here and you'd think id kicked a baby in the face.


    Best thing that ever happened to him was the war.


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    Him and Richardthefuckinglionheart. Untouchable heroes apparently. Utterly ridiculous.
  • 2dogs
    Posts: 109
    A well written piece young man,,

    In all seriousness What a novel, I put it up there with my favourite ever read

    Robert Tressell's " The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist"

    Good Taste Dear Sir B-)

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    Agree as relevant today as the day it was written 
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,182
    escla said:



    Aahh Mavis ! I compliment you on your ability to plagirise an extract from Wikipedia, quite convincing ! Your premise however that there are only three types of Tories is of course entirely of your own fabrication and I find it as amusing as it is inaccurate.

    However, that said, an amusing post as misguided as it is.


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    Definitely Tory type number two.
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,182
    Sheltieforce said:

    A well written piece young man,,

    In all seriousness What a novel, I put it up there with my favourite ever read

    Robert Tressell's " The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist"

    Good Taste Dear Sir B-)


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    Excellent book, also seen it performed as a play in the everyman last year, top quality.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,869
    MavisCruet said:

    Just wondering, how do you justify yourselves?

    You fall into three types: Rich, wannabe rich, or massively credulous.

    Massively credulous: well, too stupid to argue with, poor, oppressed by the Tories, feeds the hand that bites it, so to speak.

    Wannabe rich: see the power and wealth of their betters and masters, and want to get in on the act. Servile, supplicant scum, who will crawl over their dying grandmother to clutch at the next hand hold on the greasy pole. Utterly reprehensible.

    The Rich: The real Tories. Hooray Henries singing "Rah Rah Rah, we're going to smash the oiks", perpetuating their position on centuries of privilege, inbred to the point of idiocy. It's strange that because some warrior took land by force 800 years ago, leading to 'ownership' of this land, that the elite, now short of manpower and arms, choose the rule of law to state that you can't take away that privilege because doing it by force wouldn't be fair any more. It's like Chelsea fans getting annoyed by Man City, utter hypocrisy. Utterly self serving class whose only ambition for the nation is to have it run 'properly', i.e by people with no chins and Harris Tweed.

    I find it odd that the great British intellectual elite are so very often left leaning, non land grabbing. Ragged Trousered Philanthropists if you will.

    The right produced such gems as Winston Churchill, a fat drunk who was born in a palace, failed military exams as an officer, shot "savages" in both India (and Pakistan as now) and Africa, was party to the creation of the first concentration camps in which women and children died by tens of thousands, was an utter disaster as First Lord of the Admiralty, see Galipoli, before entering politics. He flitted between whichever political party suited his needs and to get power.

    He believed in the right and superiority of the Aryan race
    He set the Black and Tans on Ireland
    He approved use of poison gas on Kurds
    He allowed MILLIONS to die of starvation in Bengal
    Called Ghandi a "half naked Fakir" despite him being eminently more educated than Churchill, and wished he would be trampled to death by an elephant.
    He was in favour of Sufferage though.

    He is the epitome of a Tory, and anyone who willingly aligns themselves to that ideal is almost invariably, one of the above.


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    For those who cba reading all of it, I'll summarise. 

    TORIES ARE UPPER CLASS_PRICKS! 

  • zagan
    Posts: 4,747
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    I personally class all politicians as _pricks.... they all spout the same _shit....  
  • AndyForsyth
    Posts: 2,544
    Well said Mavis, rather enjoyed that read!
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