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Will Moyes sign a new contract?
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,455
    tickets11 said:

    on alex ferguson that was 2 years ago, when we aere a completely different team.  As I said we were the 5th best team in the PL back then.  there was the top4, gap then us gap then the rest of the premier league teams.


    2 years is a long time in football and the last 2 years havent been great.




    He is regarded as one of the best managers in the Premier League.
    Present tense - not past tense!

    2 years ago we had Pienaar, Arteta and Lescott. we still have all the other first teamers plus Coleman, Heitinga, young players like Barkley and Gueye making a breakthru and the 2 signings last week.

    Not hugely different at all


    By the way - 2 years ago we were 1 point ahead of Villa in 6th. Gap?

    Still haven't explained how you HAVE TO win something to make a name for yourself as a manager and how that lines up with Bilic taking the Croatia job to "make a name for himself"?
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    Beano said:

    tickets11 said:

    on alex ferguson that was 2 years ago, when we aere a completely different team.  As I said we were the 5th best team in the PL back then.  there was the top4, gap then us gap then the rest of the premier league teams.


    2 years is a long time in football and the last 2 years havent been great.




    He is regarded as one of the best managers in the Premier League.
    Present tense - not past tense!

    2 years ago we had Pienaar, Arteta and Lescott. we still have all the other first teamers plus Coleman, Heitinga, young players like Barkley and Gueye making a breakthru and the 2 signings last week.

    Not hugely different at all



    yeah not hugely different.  3 star players leave, and your response is dont worry the youth will come through.


    rooney, young and nani all leave "dont worry united fans" welbeck  cleverly and macheda are all coming through.


    players will continue to leave here as long as we dont get back into europe, or show ambition.  look at fellaini still stalling on signing a new contract, because we are a "sub top team" 

  • Beano
    Posts: 3,455
    tickets11 said:

    Beano said:

    tickets11 said:

    on alex ferguson that was 2 years ago, when we aere a completely different team.  As I said we were the 5th best team in the PL back then.  there was the top4, gap then us gap then the rest of the premier league teams.


    2 years is a long time in football and the last 2 years havent been great.




    He is regarded as one of the best managers in the Premier League.
    Present tense - not past tense!

    2 years ago we had Pienaar, Arteta and Lescott. we still have all the other first teamers plus Coleman, Heitinga, young players like Barkley and Gueye making a breakthru and the 2 signings last week.

    Not hugely different at all



    yeah not hugely different.  3 star players leave, and your response is dont worry the youth will come through.


    rooney, young and nani all leave "dont worry united fans" welbeck  cleverly and macheda are all coming through.


    players will continue to leave here as long as we dont get back into europe, or show ambition.  look at fellaini still stalling on signing a new contract, because we are a "sub top team" 



    No my response was not "dont worry the youth will come through". That was PART OF my response!
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,753
    lets end this debate now, if tickets had said DM wont sign a new contract, then he wont, its that simple.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    sambo applecart said:

    lets end this debate now, if tickets had said DM wont sign a new contract, then he wont, its that simple.



    And if he is wrong, he won't show his face for ages.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,753
    He's never wrong though r kidd!
  • tickets11
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    so why hasnt moyes signed a new contract.


    he has 2 years left why not sign a fresh 5 year contract, and show he is commited to the future of this club and give the fans something to be happy about


    Moyes had a 5 year plan, he said this back 2008, I think he will finish what he started beacuse he said he would and then leave.

    You think it is a coincidence that nevilles contract now runs until 2013, the year moyes contract is up,  Dont be surprised if he offers saha and distin a contract up until then either.

  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    tickets11 said:

    so why hasnt moyes signed a new contract.


    he has 2 years left why not sign a fresh 5 year contract, and show he is commited to the future of this club and give the fans something to be happy about


    Moyes had a 5 year plan, he said this back 2008, I think he will finish what he started beacuse he said he would and then leave.

    You think it is a coincidence that nevilles contract now runs until 2013, the year moyes contract is up,  Dont be surprised if he offers saha and distin a contract up until then either.



    I think he will leave as well Tickets, but what do you mean about Neville, Distin and Saha's contracts?
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,954
    Think he would go if the right post came up, Spurs, Utd, Celtic or anyone with money really. However, it might be right for Everton when he does go, maybe he's gone stale, we're always baffled by some of his decisions, and i would welcome us getting a manager with more of a attacking style, footballing pass n move team. Someone like Poyet might be a bit more refreshing................just a thought
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    I would be grateful for what he has done for us when he goes, but I would be happy tom give a new manager a chance to prove themselves. I agree that we could do with a manager with a more attacking approach, and a manager that can handle his strikers better. 
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    11blue said:

    I would be grateful for what he has done for us when he goes, but I would be happy tom give a new manager a chance to prove themselves. I agree that we could do with a manager with a more attacking approach, and a manager that can handle his strikers better. 



    true Moyes has had some shockers.


    yak, beattie, AJ, were all prolific, premier league proven strikers when we signed them, Now look at them.

    they all suffered the same fate, 1 good season and then BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!  thats it there finished.

  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    tickets11 said:

    11blue said:

    I would be grateful for what he has done for us when he goes, but I would be happy tom give a new manager a chance to prove themselves. I agree that we could do with a manager with a more attacking approach, and a manager that can handle his strikers better. 



    true Moyes has had some shockers.


    yak, beattie, AJ, were all prolific, premier league proven strikers when we signed them, Now look at them.

    they all suffered the same fate, 1 good season and then BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!  thats it there finished.



    I agree with this, even Beckford was played in a 4 5 1 and that never suited him at all. 
  • harrywley213977
    Posts: 8
    Moyes will stay, where else can he go, and he is on 60k a week must be about 3rd or 4th in the premiership wages wise.

    I think he is waiting for when ferguson leaves United

    So will he sign as it stands now yes he will
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,753
    HOWIE8 said:

    Think he would go if the right post came up, Spurs, Utd, Celtic or anyone with money really. However, it might be right for Everton when he does go, maybe he's gone stale, we're always baffled by some of his decisions, and i would welcome us getting a manager with more of a attacking style, footballing pass n move team. Someone like Poyet might be a bit more refreshing................just a thought


    yes howie mate, i like poyet, i also like lambert and the guy at swansea, all seem to have good footballing ethics, if moyes were to ever go.




  • Beano
    Posts: 3,455
    11blue said:

    tickets11 said:

    so why hasnt moyes signed a new contract.


    he has 2 years left why not sign a fresh 5 year contract, and show he is commited to the future of this club and give the fans something to be happy about


    Moyes had a 5 year plan, he said this back 2008, I think he will finish what he started beacuse he said he would and then leave.

    You think it is a coincidence that nevilles contract now runs until 2013, the year moyes contract is up,  Dont be surprised if he offers saha and distin a contract up until then either.



    I think he will leave as well Tickets, but what do you mean about Neville, Distin and Saha's contracts?


    It appears if one player in a squad has his contract expiring at the same time as the manager, it's evidence of a conspiracy!
  • BlueShark
    Posts: 1,413
    tickets11 said:

    Dont be surprised if he offers saha and distin a contract up until then either.



    Not two days ago you were claiming Saha will leave at the end of this season when his contract expires. You really are incapable of coherent thought aren't you?
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    BlueShark said:

    tickets11 said:

    Dont be surprised if he offers saha and distin a contract up until then either.



    Not two days ago you were claiming Saha will leave at the end of this season when his contract expires. You really are incapable of coherent thought aren't you?



    Cant beleive the low IQ of some people on thi forum tht I have to spell everything out.


    Moyes contract ends in 2  seasons yes, neville has now signed a contract until 2013, when moyes cont5ract is up.  we all know he isnt a good enough Right back, But this is basically moyes saying rather then get rid of these players, and have no money to brin in any decent replacements, Why not keep what I have for an extra season or 2,


    Same with saha, his contract runs out at the end of the season, and we all know due to injuries, and being 33 he isnt gooe enough to be our number 1 striker.  but rather then let him leave for free and not have any money to bring in a suitable replacement, he will ask him to sign another extension.  Same applies with distin.


    Now these playes arent good enough, But what choice does moyes have,  how is he going to replace 3 first team payers with virtually nothing...........It cant be done, Hence the stop gap of allowing them a contract extension for 2 main reasons.


    1) less hassle then finding replacements with no money

    2) they sign contracts upto when moyes contract is up, so when the new manager comes in it then become his problem.


    I cant beleive the IQ of some of the people here, get back to school and get some qualifications FFS.

  • BlueShark
    Posts: 1,413
    Touched a nerve there?

    Qualifications? Don't make me laugh....I can't take you seriously until you demonstrate a basic level of maths and rational discussion.

    Perhaps you should go back to school (though I actually doubt you've left yet) and concentrate on basic spelling; from there you could try your hand at the more complicated stuff like forming a credible, consistent argument.
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,455
    If (according to you) Saha isn't good enough to be our #1 striker NOW....and Distin isn't good enough NOW....and Neville isn't good enough NOW.....how does it only become a new managers problem in 2 years' time?

    If he can't replace them coz of no money....what is he supposed to do differently whether he's staying or not?

    You were saying something about IQ?
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    BlueShark said:

    Touched a nerve there?

    Qualifications? Don't make me laugh....I can't take you seriously until you demonstrate a basic level of maths and rational discussion.

    Perhaps you should go back to school (though i actually doubt you've left yet) and concentrate on basic spelling; from there you could try your hand at the more complicated stuff like forming a credible, consistent argument.



    basic level of maths, I have a degree in civil engineering, Is that a high enough level of maths for you :) :) :).


    so which greggs do you work at then

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