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Posts: 2,555August 2012 .......The Mancs bidding on Baines? If rumours are to be believed, they've offered £12m for Baines, yet now we've sold Rodders for £15-£17m, surely that would make them think 'well Baines is better by far and a lot less injury prone, maybe it's time we got serious'.I think it confirms that we shouldn't be looking for anything less than £20-£25m for Baines.
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Posts: 1,537August 2012 If we sell Baines too I am not going to any games this season. We don't NEED to sell Baines and 20m will not replace his ability and worth to the team. The banks should be content now and if Kenwrght lacks the spine to say no to bigger clubs I will be utterly disgusted.
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Posts: 131August 2012 Dont know what happened there but i totally agree mate,we dont need to sell Baines now
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Posts: 5,471August 2012 weve sold our 1 player to keep the banks happy :) next year it will probably be barkley or felliani
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Posts: 1,537August 2012cjohno said:
weve sold our 1 player to keep the banks happy :) next year it will probably be barkley or felliani
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Sadly that is true. However this season we shouldn't need to sell anyone.
What I don't understand is the fact that our debt is escalating. We at one point owed £20m to banks, but now its risen to £40m and supposedly almost £50m. We sell players and give a large chunk of it to the bank; shouldn't that reduce the debt? I seem to remember the report from Robert Earl saying that we lost about £5m each year. If that's the case then the entire board should be sacked because we're doing something horribly wrong. If they are taking even a penny out from the club at this stage then we should be calling for their heads because if they are then they are the reason the club is falling backwards.
Oh God, I feel myself slipping back into the "Kenwright out" phase again. :O -
Posts: 96August 2012 Would highly doubt that Baines or Felli go at all, and i am super excited at the prospects of more new faces, we got a good fee and we knew we had to sell someone for 15-20mil to get faces in, and Jack hasn't lived up the hype and people were getting frustrated with him so fair play, he can pack his pockets and our team can benefit as i'm sure Moyes will work some magic in the market now.
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Posts: 5,471August 2012 well i cant see felli being here in 2 years if he continues to improve, he will attract a lot of interest from top sides and not a chance in a million years he will be an everton player in 2 seasons if he is then hes gone backwards and nobody wants him
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Posts: 96August 2012cjohno said:
well i cant see felli being here in 2 years if he continues to improve, he will attract a lot of interest from top sides and not a chance in a million years he will be an everton player in 2 seasons if he is then hes gone backwards and nobody wants him
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Or maybe we have gone in the right direction ;) -
Posts: 5,471August 2012Rtaylor91 said:
Or maybe we have gone in the right direction ;)
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oh yeh we might get took over by billionaires, how long have we been for sale lol :) -
Posts: 96August 2012cjohno said:
oh yeh we might get took over by billionaires, how long have we been for sale lol :)
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apparently not long enough :P buttt 2 years time is plenty for situations for us to change, hopefully for the better -
Posts: 2,558August 2012AndyForsyth said:
.......The Mancs bidding on Baines? If rumours are to be believed, they've offered £12m for Baines, yet now we've sold Rodders for £15-£17m, surely that would make them think 'well Baines is better by far and a lot less injury prone, maybe it's time we got serious'.
I think it confirms that we shouldn't be looking for anything less than £20-£25m for Baines.-----------------
One question Andy, how do you know how much we got for Rodwell ? ..... thought as much, you dont -
Posts: 2,558August 2012Jxg said:
Sadly that is true. However this season we shouldn't need to sell anyone.
What I don't understand is the fact that our debt is escalating. We at one point owed £20m to banks, but now its risen to £40m and supposedly almost £50m. We sell players and give a large chunk of it to the bank; shouldn't that reduce the debt? I seem to remember the report from Robert Earl saying that we lost about £5m each year. If that's the case then the entire board should be sacked because we're doing something horribly wrong. If they are taking even a penny out from the club at this stage then we should be calling for their heads because if they are then they are the reason the club is falling backwards.
Oh God, I feel myself slipping back into the "Kenwright out" phase again. :O-----------------
Ever heard of things like compound interest, escalating operating costs, soaring wage bills ? People on here scream blue murder that we don't pay higher wages to attract and retain the best players then when we do secure a player on a long term contract with competitive wages they scream that the board are driving the debt higher. -
Posts: 96August 2012escla said:
Ever heard of things like compound interest, escalating operating costs, soaring wage bills ? People on here scream blue murder that we don't pay higher wages to attract and retain the best players then when we do secure a player on a long term contract with competitive wages they scream that the board are driving the debt higher.-----------------
Esca in this world, no one is ever pleased :P the please some people and the others will be upset and vice versa. -
Posts: 2,555August 2012escla said:
One question Andy, how do you know how much we got for Rodwell ? ..... thought as much, you dont-----------------
Been waiting for you to have a go again, nice while the peace lasted. I'll tell you this, you're right, I don't but the figure that seems to be floating about is the £15m mark. I've even seen £12m with £5m in add-ons, which is how I've come to the figures of £15m-£17m, so call it an educated guess, or am I once again ill-educated? -
Posts: 2,558August 2012 No need for the rhetoric Andy, a simple "you are right I don't know" would have sufficed.
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Posts: 2,555August 2012escla said:
No need for the rhetoric Andy, a simple "you are right I don't know" would have sufficed.
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No, I felt that I should explain where I got the figure from, to show that it wasn't just plucked from the air. -
Posts: 2,558August 2012 Your figure was based on pure rumour,gossip,speculation i.e plucked from thin air.
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Posts: 2,555August 2012escla said:
Your figure was based on pure rumour,gossip,speculation i.e plucked from thin air.
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This seems pretty definite to me: -
Posts: 2,187August 2012AndyForsyth said:
No, I felt that I should explain where I got the figure from, to show that it wasn't just plucked from the air.
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Don't know why you should feel the need to explain yourself to him lad, just remember hes never wrong, he reads the daily mail dontyaknow. -
Posts: 2,555August 2012AndyForsyth said:
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And not only this, but, Greg O'Keefe has confirmed that he knows the figure, has tweeted that it's £12m with add-ons. Maybe not quite the £5m add-ons I'd seen, but I did say £15-£17m to cover myself.
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